Brown....Brown...Orange...Orange...Talk about Irony !!

He is shite lets face it, almost gifted them a goal on Friday after 20 seconds and then was nowhere to be seen when they did score, useless git.

There must be someone else who can play RB? I would have put Dyer or SWP there, attacking and linking up with Beckham, we should be taking the game to them and giving them a hiding, not playing to snatch a win. Sums England up !!

Feliz Año Neuvo

I think it would be funny if they sacked McLaren and Fat Sam was offered and accepted the job. Oh how I'd laugh....

http://www.petitiononline.com/savesven/petition.html

Can you give me a clue? They had a shite Goalkeeper as well?

Feliz Año Neuvo

you do not mess with Jack Reacher

Nobody's deluded by this sort of result any more, so let's instead consider three irrefutable facts:

1. England are bloody dreadful.

2. England are not going to qualify for Euro 2008. (Maximum points at Wembley against Russia, Croatia and Israel? Good luck with that.)

3. Steve McClaren is a chancer who should be sacked.

You would hope by dealing decisively with point three, point one would somehow be addressed, even if it's a bit late for point two. But we all know that's not the case: even if the FA did get shot of the current players' lapdog, the first squad under whichever new man they choose - bar one or two short-lived smoke-and-mirrors surprise selections - would contain all the usual suspects.

This team doesn't gel and it never will, so what's the point in persisting with it? Perhaps the FA should ship in Berti Vogts. Oh alright, but don't laugh too much: Wee Berti's reign as Scotland manager may have ended in risible disaster, but at least he had the balls to break up Craig Brown's octogenarian squad and try to rebuild something new. If he hadn't done that, you can be pretty sure Scotland wouldn't currently be in such rude health (hey, it's all about context and realistic expectations).

How England could do with dropping a few of the first-on-the-teamsheet names like Michael Owen (past it), Steven Gerrard (all at sea without an Alonso or a Mascherano), Frank Lampard (one-dimensional), John Terry (consistently found out at the highest level in the Champions League) or Paul Robinson (immobile).

Actually, why not get rid of all of them? At once. Now. England - unlike poor, hapless Scotland - have plenty of alternatives. How about sending out a clear signal that the big-club bias is over, and scouring the other Premiership clubs to field something like this: Scott Carson; Micah Richards, Jonathan Woodgate, Joleon Lescott, Nicky Shorey; David Bentley, Scott Parker, Phil Jagielka, Matt Taylor; Leroy Lita, Dean Ashton. Now no doubt you'd pick a far better side yourself, but the point remains: those players would be leaner, hungrier and less satisfied with themselves, and would probably give the toasters who were flattered in Estonia tonight a run for their money anyway.

But what if the experiment goes tits up? Well, this shambles of an England team aren't going to qualify anyway, so at least you'd have a bunch of chastened "top-name" players to bring back into the mix. It's no coincidence that David Beckham has started playing some half-decent football again after spending most of the season being booted up the hole by both Real Madrid and England. Players should demand inclusion with their form, not expect it once they've gained membership to the club. And the next couple of England games would be pretty damn entertaining, if nothing else.

It's all pie in the sky, of course, but what's the alternative? Staring lovingly at tonight's 3-0 scoreline and dreaming of glory next summer? So the cycle of delusion begins again: good luck as the wheel turns, everyone, you're not going to have much fun.

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