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| |  Posted 15/05/2007 12:32:26 | |
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Best football in the world is in Italy. Been that way for years.Not sure how you can say this after the match fixing scandel? Match fixing didn't have anything to do with quality of football. Just bent people affecting results. How does this work when in Italy Corradi is considered an international player? Don't think Italy is best league, but they have a handful of quality clubs but the underlying strength of the league isn't patch on the Prem. The prem has very little underlying strength. It has four good teams, and that's it. Most of the rest are poor. You can verify that by asking how many good performances you have seen against City this year. Agreed. The healthiest league is the Spanish, as it's far more competitive than England or Italy. The Premiership must be turning into some sort of joke on the continent. The same four teams playing in the CL every year. Call that entertainment?
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| | | Posted 15/05/2007 12:40:37 | |
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Best football in the world is in Italy. Been that way for years.Not sure how you can say this after the match fixing scandel? Match fixing didn't have anything to do with quality of football. Just bent people affecting results. How does this work when in Italy Corradi is considered an international player? Don't think Italy is best league, but they have a handful of quality clubs but the underlying strength of the league isn't patch on the Prem. The prem has very little underlying strength. It has four good teams, and that's it. Most of the rest are poor. You can verify that by asking how many good performances you have seen against City this year. Agreed. The healthiest league is the Spanish, as it's far more competitive than England or Italy. The Premiership must be turning into some sort of joke on the continent. The same four teams playing in the CL every year. Call that entertainment? Don't agree here with you BU. What teams in the other leagues make a challenge for the title outisde the traditional top teams. Italy Milan, Inter, Roma again and it'll be Juve again next year. Spain Barca, Real, Valencia again Sevilla have made a challenge this year Holland PSV, Ajax, again only Alkmaar buck the trend here. Germany Munich having bad season but the rest are the usual suspects. France Only Lyon and then the rest is so poor who cares. Do you get a situation where the champions are doubled by a relagation threatend team in any other league. Every Premier league team can beat any other on any given sunday whereas the other Euro leagues do not IMHO have this treangth in depth.
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| | | Posted 15/05/2007 12:47:43 | |
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| A 'strong' league though, wouldn't have the 3rd placed team finish 21 points behind the champions, and every team from 5th down being closer to relegation than to the top. I agree that the majority of teams can all beat each other on any given day which makes things unpredictable, but that doesn't make the Premiership a strong league (in terms of strength in depth), as none are consistent enough to keep up with the top clubs. For me it makes it more of an intriguing league, but that is down to a bunch of similarly mediocre teams beating each other rather than a competitive league with many strong teams. I suppose it's really just a matter of perspective on the same thing, though.
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| | | Posted 15/05/2007 12:55:09 | |
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| It should be getting better though now. If city get the £50 million, west ham have £30 million to spend, Newcastle will spend as usual, Portsmouth have money, Villa too, Spurs are still being linked to everybody that comes available. Should make for an interesting season.
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| | | Posted 15/05/2007 13:01:46 | |
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| save me Jeebus (15/05/2007)
It should be getting better though now. If city get the £50 million, west ham have £30 million to spend, Newcastle will spend as usual, Portsmouth have money, Villa too, Spurs are still being linked to everybody that comes available. Should make for an interesting season.I'd like to think so, but the gulf is still pretty big. It may take a few years of sustained similar investment, and presumably not all piggy banks will be willing to do so for so long before seeing a reward, but after that we should hopefully see something that is more competitive. At least looking upwards, though what it means for lower division teams really isn't such good news.
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| | | Posted 15/05/2007 13:14:05 | |
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Best football in the world is in Italy. Been that way for years.Not sure how you can say this after the match fixing scandel? Match fixing didn't have anything to do with quality of football. Just bent people affecting results. How does this work when in Italy Corradi is considered an international player? Don't think Italy is best league, but they have a handful of quality clubs but the underlying strength of the league isn't patch on the Prem. The prem has very little underlying strength. It has four good teams, and that's it. Most of the rest are poor. You can verify that by asking how many good performances you have seen against City this year. Agreed. The healthiest league is the Spanish, as it's far more competitive than England or Italy. The Premiership must be turning into some sort of joke on the continent. The same four teams playing in the CL every year. Call that entertainment? Don't agree here with you BU. What teams in the other leagues make a challenge for the title outisde the traditional top teams. Italy Milan, Inter, Roma again and it'll be Juve again next year. Spain Barca, Real, Valencia again Sevilla have made a challenge this year Holland PSV, Ajax, again only Alkmaar buck the trend here. Germany Munich having bad season but the rest are the usual suspects. France Only Lyon and then the rest is so poor who cares. Do you get a situation where the champions are doubled by a relagation threatend team in any other league. Every Premier league team can beat any other on any given sunday whereas the other Euro leagues do not IMHO have this treangth in depth. Italy: 2007: Inter, Roma, Lazio, Milan
2006: Juve, Milan, Inter, Fiorentina
2005: Juve, Milan Inter, Udinese
2004: Milan, Roma, Juve, Inter Spain: 2007: Barca, Real M, Sevilla, Valencia
2006: Barca, Real M, Sevilla, Valencia
2005: Barca, Real M, Villareal, Betis
2004: Valencia, Barca, Depor, Real M England: 2007: Rags, Chavs, RedScouse, Arse
2006: Chavs, Rags, RedScouse, Arse
2005: Chavs, Arse, Rags, BlueScouse
2004: Arse, Chavs, Rags, RedScouse
In the last four seasons, only one team in England has broken the quadropoly. In Spain the number is 3, in Italy the number is 3. The situation is not ideal in any country, but in England it is more apparent than in other major European leagues. Not only that, but in this country we used to pride ourselves on the competitive nature of our league. We used to mock the Spanish with Real and Barca dominating the league year in year out. The likes of Watford and Norwich could finish in the top 3 in England not so long ago. Never again. The English league has gone from being the most competitive to the least competitive since the Premiership began. Coincidence? Nope.
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| | | Posted 15/05/2007 13:14:14 | |
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It should be getting better though now. If city get the £50 million, west ham have £30 million to spend, Newcastle will spend as usual, Portsmouth have money, Villa too, Spurs are still being linked to everybody that comes available. Should make for an interesting season.I'd like to think so, but the gulf is still pretty big. It may take a few years of sustained similar investment, and presumably not all piggy banks will be willing to do so for so long before seeing a reward, but after that we should hopefully see something that is more competitive. At least looking upwards, though what it means for lower division teams really isn't such good news. I would like to see a fairer distribution on the Champs League money throughout the leagues. Never gonna happen though and unless someone does bank roll the first few seasons it is going to be difficult to gate carsh the Champs league party. Abramovich did it at Chelsea as they were not Champ League regulars until his money came. Still think that our middle teams are as strong or stronger than other euro league teams.
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| | | Posted 15/05/2007 13:26:40 | |
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| Maurizio Nicked My Porsche (15/05/2007)
I would like to see a fairer distribution on the Champs League money throughout the leagues. Never gonna happen though and unless someone does bank roll the first few seasons it is going to be difficult to gate carsh the Champs league party. Abramovich did it at Chelsea as they were not Champ League regulars until his money came. Still think that our middle teams are as strong or stronger than other euro league teams. Me too, but the powerful clubs would never let it happen. Indeed, but unless one of these benefactors has both the insight and the resources to figure that out and act upon it, I have a feeling that some investors will feel a little disgruntled that a single injection of cash didn't make all the difference. Yes, Abramovich did it, and very quickly too, but there were extraordinary amounts of money involved in that case. They may be (I can't really comment, as I don't watch, or even follow, much European football), but is it that we have strength in depth, or just that all the big leagues are similarly dominated and lacking in strength? Even so, it's hard to see other teams breaking into the top 4, given the gulf in points this season, and that fact that both Arsenal and Liverpool were considered to have had poor seasons by their standards.
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| | | Posted 15/05/2007 13:36:08 | |
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I would like to see a fairer distribution on the Champs League money throughout the leagues. Never gonna happen though and unless someone does bank roll the first few seasons it is going to be difficult to gate carsh the Champs league party. Abramovich did it at Chelsea as they were not Champ League regulars until his money came. Still think that our middle teams are as strong or stronger than other euro league teams. Me too, but the powerful clubs would never let it happen. Indeed, but unless one of these benefactors has both the insight and the resources to figure that out and act upon it, I have a feeling that some investors will feel a little disgruntled that a single injection of cash didn't make all the difference. Yes, Abramovich did it, and very quickly too, but there were extraordinary amounts of money involved in that case. They may be (I can't really comment, as I don't watch, or even follow, much European football), but is it that we have strength in depth, or just that all the big leagues are similarly dominated and lacking in strength? Even so, it's hard to see other teams breaking into the top 4, given the gulf in points this season, and that fact that both Arsenal and Liverpool were considered to have had poor seasons by their standards. You don't need £200m to do it though becuase Chelsea must have wasted about £100m of their money on over the odds prices and buys just to stop other teams from getting players. 17m for Duff, 21m SWP, 17m Mutu, 18m Veron, 6m Johnson, 15m Argie on loan at Inter, 10m Parker to name some off the top of my head. With the right buy's and the squad we have I reckon £50m should do it with the right man in charge.
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