When was the last time City had 2 outfield players in the England team?

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81 mins Finally tempers are raised as - you guessed it - Barton crashes into the back of Albelda. The ref decides a booking would be inappropriate, with Lawro observing that "it's not been that kind of game". Correct, Lawro, but that's the problem. It's not been England's type of game; it's been Spain's kind of game. Hence the scoreline. "If you're shopping for blue-glazed Dutch pottery, can you do a Delft Cruyff turn?" says Sean Cronin.

83 mins IRELAND HAS/HAVE SCORED Stephen Ireland scores a late, late winner for his team. If only we could find an equally talented Stephen England to save us.

85 mins One of the (many) reasons Crouch struggles against the better international teams is that the top defenders know how to persuade refs he's fouling them. Crouch timed his leap perfectly to head Barry's long ball there, but Navarro cleverly placed himself under the striker, making it look as if he was being pushed down. Yes, that was the main talking point of the last four minutes.

88 mins It gets worse. Downing seemed to have beaten Angel, but then sliced his cross into Old Trafford's second tier. England have been dreadful tonight.

90 mins There will be two minutes of added time. Given that there have been seven substitutions in the second half, and the referee is supposed to add on thirty seconds for each one, there should be at least three-and-a-half minutes. The ref has clearly taken pity on the poor souls witnessing this.

Full time The loudest noise of the evening is the jeer delivered by the crowd on hearing the final whistle. England's performance was as poor as the game itself. I'm sure McClaren will claim there are plenty of positives to take out of it, but I can't see any. Foster had nothing to do except pick the ball out of his net, the Nevilles were totally uncreative despite having plenty of possession, the otherwise solid centre-halves lost concentration briefly and paid the price, Gerrard and Lampard failed to impose themselves despite having Carrick sitting for them, Wright-Phillips was awful, Crouch barely got a kick (or a head), and Dyer faded after the first 10 minutes.

Ok, so it was only a friendly, but it was still a chance for McClaren to win over the public and for the players to find some rhythm. They managed neither against a fairly disinterested Spain team. If they play like that in Tel Aviv next month, they will lose. Of course, Rooney could be the catalyst for a vast improvement, but it's unlikely. Thanks for your emails, Mike.

From the guardian, after Joey came on.

I dont know if this was PR thinking or Irony, but I thought it was funny !!

Nice to see him get stuck straight in as well !!

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I have to disagree with that.  Crouch can barely jump and so he does push down on defenders (or grabs their hair if they have dreads ) virtually every single time to get leverage, with the added bonus of stopping the defender from jumping.  With his height advantage there should be no need to do that whatsoever.  In this game, though, he came up against a referee who wasn't going to let him get away with it, and he really struggled as a result.

You may have guessed from previous posts, though, I'm not Crouch's biggest fan so am unlikely to defend him and claim he was harshly treated by the ref

Keeper of the heretic's fork of doom.

Myself and Danyy were both pretty smug about that substitution.  He should have mooned him.

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I think it was more the look on his face when he saw his number and Barton Waiting, nice !!

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