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| Bassman, the fact that Robbie Williams, Girls Aloud etc etc etc play sell out venues, sell loads of records and make shed loads of dosh, yet you play pubs in Oldham for a few quid, isn't JUST down to PR, greedy record companies etc, like it or not they are giving what the public want.
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 14:09:52 | |
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| It's not Christmas it's not an act of faith (14/12/2006)
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I'd like to point out that making music is free. most people do it. if it is good enough then it will break through. Shit is still shit. and with out trying to make this personal, for somebody who claims to know so little about popular culture, you do hate it an awful lot. there are also popular manufactured bands like McFly who make good music. The whole image thing is irrelevant, the fact that you go so against it still you being conned by the marketing. why not judge a track or a band or artist on the individual song? On the simon cowell front, you have to respect a man who can judge a market so well so consistently. he is not forcing the public to buy what is sometimes in my opinion a pile of gash, he is judging his target demographic. A respected band such as the chilli peppers used to be could, now they churn out the same song 15 times for an album. prepubesant(sp?) girls listen to that shit because keidis went out with heidi klum or does. whatever. he has also released an auto biog. ghost written. as i said before. reeks of snobbery and hypocrisy. Cowell is a cunt, because he is basically a parasite, making money off the back of wannabees, that he can flog to muppets who listen to the first bit of tripe they hear. My main gripe is the fact that record companies spend so much money on wankers like RW and all these boy/girl bands, where that money could be put to far better use. music is for enjoying, it doesnt have to make a political statement or have a deep meaning.. if it makes a kid jump around then that's fine.. putting more music into higher quality artists would do nothing, maybe the singles charts would look different. But he whole point of buying a single is cos you dont wanna pay for the album isnt it? If a band is good enough, they will make it, regardless of a tv show! it's a good tv programme, better than most of the shite that's on. it's just an easy target.
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 14:16:17 | |
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| bassman, these artist that cowell is ripping off? are very very rich, they then go on to make their own record companies if they have any sense. I worry about your lack of knowledge of the industry you are trying to break into mate. you should read a book on it.
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 14:30:24 | |
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| ESM's Big Inflatable Santa (14/12/2006)
Bassman, the fact that Robbie Williams, Girls Aloud etc etc etc play sell out venues, sell loads of records and make shed loads of dosh, yet you play pubs in Oldham for a few quid, isn't JUST down to PR, greedy record companies etc, like it or not they are giving what the public want.They aren't giving the public what they want, the majority of the public listen to what they are told to listen to. |
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 14:32:32 | |
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| ZINGle all the way (14/12/2006)
bassman, these artist that cowell is ripping off? are very very rich, they then go on to make their own record companies if they have any sense. I worry about your lack of knowledge of the industry you are trying to break into mate. you should read a book on it.I have no desire to be involved in that side of the record industry. What we need is to be signed by a good independent, because they give you more freedom. And if that doesn't work, we'll set up our own independent label to sell our stuff. I've read a few books on the music biz. |
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 14:33:30 | |
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| It's not Christmas it's not an act of faith (14/12/2006)
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Bassman, the fact that Robbie Williams, Girls Aloud etc etc etc play sell out venues, sell loads of records and make shed loads of dosh, yet you play pubs in Oldham for a few quid, isn't JUST down to PR, greedy record companies etc, like it or not they are giving what the public want.They aren't giving the public what they want, the majority of the public listen to what they are told to listen to. Didn't want to get involved in this, but what the fuck bassman???? How do the majority listen to what they're told to??? If, for example, you take all the people I know (family, friends, colleagues etc) as a representative sample of the British public then I can say without a doubt that the British public DO NOT listen to what they are told to listen to. What a ridiculous statement to make.
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 14:35:29 | |
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| It's not Christmas it's not an act of faith (14/12/2006)
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Bassman, the fact that Robbie Williams, Girls Aloud etc etc etc play sell out venues, sell loads of records and make shed loads of dosh, yet you play pubs in Oldham for a few quid, isn't JUST down to PR, greedy record companies etc, like it or not they are giving what the public want.They aren't giving the public what they want, the majority of the public listen to what they are told to listen to. That's utter bollocks Bassman, and you know it. There is plenty of different styles and genres of music out there for the public to buy and listen too, equally there are many media platforms for people to listen too that cater for different tastes, nobody puts a fucking gun to peoples heads do they?
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 14:36:47 | |
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| Burnage Blue's Xmas Stockings (14/12/2006)
It's not Christmas it's not an act of faith (14/12/2006)
ESM's Big Inflatable Santa (14/12/2006)
Bassman, the fact that Robbie Williams, Girls Aloud etc etc etc play sell out venues, sell loads of records and make shed loads of dosh, yet you play pubs in Oldham for a few quid, isn't JUST down to PR, greedy record companies etc, like it or not they are giving what the public want.They aren't giving the public what they want, the majority of the public listen to what they are told to listen to. Didn't want to get involved in this, but what the fuck bassman???? How do the majority listen to what they're told to??? If, for example, you take all the people I know (family, friends, colleagues etc) as a representative sample of the British public then I can say without a doubt that the British public DO NOT listen to what they are told to listen to. What a ridiculous statement to make. What i'm saying is, the music industry could market absolutely anything, and people will buy it. A lot of people are spoonfed what they hear on Radio1 or Key103 or whatever, and assume that that's it. |
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 14:40:54 | |
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| ESM's Big Inflatable Santa (14/12/2006)
It's not Christmas it's not an act of faith (14/12/2006)
ESM's Big Inflatable Santa (14/12/2006)
Bassman, the fact that Robbie Williams, Girls Aloud etc etc etc play sell out venues, sell loads of records and make shed loads of dosh, yet you play pubs in Oldham for a few quid, isn't JUST down to PR, greedy record companies etc, like it or not they are giving what the public want.They aren't giving the public what they want, the majority of the public listen to what they are told to listen to. That's utter bollocks Bassman, and you know it. There is plenty of different styles and genres of music out there for the public to buy and listen too, equally there are many media platforms for people to listen too that cater for different tastes, nobody puts a fucking gun to peoples heads do they? It's not utter bollox, and no, i don't know it. Most people listen to the first thing they hear, whether it be the latest offering from Coldplay or the latest novelty song, or the latest boyband/girlband schmalz they've seen on tv or whatever. Believe me, i work with a woman who has decided to buy some album, because she's seen an advert on fuckin tv. |
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 14:42:47 | |
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| It's not Christmas it's not an act of faith (14/12/2006)
Burnage Blue's Xmas Stockings (14/12/2006)
It's not Christmas it's not an act of faith (14/12/2006)
ESM's Big Inflatable Santa (14/12/2006)
Bassman, the fact that Robbie Williams, Girls Aloud etc etc etc play sell out venues, sell loads of records and make shed loads of dosh, yet you play pubs in Oldham for a few quid, isn't JUST down to PR, greedy record companies etc, like it or not they are giving what the public want.They aren't giving the public what they want, the majority of the public listen to what they are told to listen to. Didn't want to get involved in this, but what the fuck bassman???? How do the majority listen to what they're told to??? If, for example, you take all the people I know (family, friends, colleagues etc) as a representative sample of the British public then I can say without a doubt that the British public DO NOT listen to what they are told to listen to. What a ridiculous statement to make. What i'm saying is, the music industry could market absolutely anything, and people will buy it. A lot of people are spoonfed what they hear on Radio1 or Key103 or whatever, and assume that that's it. But now you're making assumptions about the intelligence of the general public. Do you really believe that people think that what's played on Radio 1, xfm etc is all there is out there? People aren't as stupid as you'd like us to believe, even those that are in to the more mainstream genres of music are aware of those bands out there plugging away in small venues to try and make it in to the industry and of the websites from which you can download any type of music you like. People know where to find alternative music if that's what they're looking for.
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