| | Posted 08/12/2006 11:45:34 | |
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| | So let's all pander to cheating players just so that they won't go elsewhere? Because having a league full of theatrical histrionics is great, isn't it? Who wants a genuine sporting contest with people playing within the rules when you can have 90 minutes of playacting every bit as fake as anything WWE has to offer? He is right in one thing, though. "There is so much to celebrate and glorify about football, and yet we spend hour upon hour, week upon week, talking about simulation and diving." Yes Andy, there is and we do. That is because it is the simulation and diving that often prompts match-changing decisions from the referee, so the entire result is influenced by it. That is why we spend so much time talking about it, we are bemoaning the direction our beloved game has taken. Maybe if all this nonsense was eradicated, we could get back to celebrating and glorifying the good things about football, and we'd all enjoy it so much more as a result! I'm no Manchester United fan but I am a fan of football and I absolutely love the Premiership. And we're going to lose magnificent players like Cristiano Ronaldo from this league if we persist in McCarthy-style witch trials of footballers who dive.
There is so much to celebrate and glorify about football, and yet we spend hour upon hour, week upon week, talking about simulation and diving. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill...
Last week's furore was no surprise to me, and it certainly was no surprise that Ronaldo was the player at the centre - not because he dives any more than anyone else, but because he has become an easy target, especially after the World Cup.
Yes, he might exaggerate sometimes. But does he do it more than anyone else? Was his 'dive' any worse than Tomas Rosicky's against Tottenham? Personally I think Rosicky's was worse, and there was vfery little said about that.
And it looked exactly the same as Stevie Gerrard's against Sheffield United to me. He was running at pace, moved to avoid a tackle, lost his balance and with it the scoring opportunity. Nowhere in the rule books does it say that there has to be contact - only intent.
Ronaldo is probably one of the most fouled players in the Premiership - he keeps the ball close to his feet, twists and turns and stays on his toes. It doesn't take a lot to lose your balance when you play like that.
Yes, he embellishes it at times. But which player doesn't? Watch defenders when they're shepherding out the ball - the slightest contact in the back from the striker, and they're down. It's part of the game and it always has been.
I played against the likes of Franny Lee and Trevor Francis, who were masters of the art. If ever there was a brush, they would be down. We accepted it, and that's what people need to do now - condemning players will only see them lose their confidence and eventually even go elsewhere.
You couldn't really blame Ronaldo - at the age of 21 - if he decided he'd had enough and went to Italy or Spain, where his talents would be appreciated. That would be a massive loss to the Premiership - we need to encourage skill players, not drive them out of the country.
This game is not perfect and it never will be - people need to stop trying to make it so. People will make mistakes, as we all do in everyday life, and we have to accept those mistakes. Sometimes players will get it wrong, sometimes referees will get it wrong - launching a witch-hunt helps nobody.
A totally sanitised game - which some people seem to be striving for - will never happen, and thank God for that. Wouldn't it be dull if we didn't have controversy and argument? What on earth would I talk about for hours every Sunday?
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| | | Posted 08/12/2006 12:20:26 | |
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| | | Posted 08/12/2006 12:38:46 | |
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| "A totally sanitised game - which some people seem to be striving for - will never happen, and thank God for that. Wouldn't it be dull if we didn't have controversy and argument? What on earth would I talk about for hours every Sunday?"
Motivation enough for eradicating simulation me thinks!
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| | | Posted 08/12/2006 12:45:29 | |
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| This is brilliant, two examples this week of people backing Ronaldo and the art of diving. Firstly from Alex Ferguson and now Andy Gray.
Ferguson I can believe, he has to back his players even if they are gay, portugese, hairdressers that cheat. His player, support him even if it means spouting junk about blaming the defender for defending, which of course should be outlawed to make way for similarly skilled hairdressers.
But for Andy Gray, a supposed pundit, what the fuck is this?
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| | | Posted 11/12/2006 22:10:40 | |
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| | | | Posted 12/12/2006 10:12:06 | |
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| Thats rich coming from andy gray, he was forever falling over his own feet. Franny Lee the cheeky bastard, Franny was one of the toughest pocket dynamo's he never went down easy.....I think for comic relief we should get franny & andy in the ring and let em go at each other....
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| | | Posted 12/12/2006 11:10:52 | |
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| I liked the way he began "I'm no Man United fan" and then went on to suck Ronaldo's cock.
What a fucking twat. My Dad gave me his signed autobiography for Christmas last year, you should have seen my face. Thankfully, there's a jock in our office who is going to receive it as his secret Santa this year....
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| | | Posted 13/12/2006 19:26:30 | |
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| Andy Gray is a twat, he has lost the plot. Also, how has Jamie Redknapp become Sky's top boy all of a sudden. Who the fuck has he shagged to get there?
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 09:33:22 | |
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| I find Redknapp annoying due to his overwhelming bias for anything to do with Liverpool and/or Frank Lampard. Seriously, he won't ever even sit on the fence with these now.
Oh, and Andy Gray needs some sort of medication.
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| | | Posted 14/12/2006 11:49:48 | |
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| Id rather listing to Paul King ( the guy thats sits next to me at city games) season ticket holder unfortunately....fucking hell youd think he didnt support city the way he goes on, im taking a fork with me on sunday so I can stab myself in the eye.....
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