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| when you look at the Tottenham game and how Thaksin was cheered like a hero when he is a not so trustworthy man who exploited his country and only sees City as a business venture and an opportunity to boost his popularity.It is sickening to see people mainly from the working class celebrating this shady fortune hunter in his Bentley, because they hope he might help City. Anybody thought of the possibility that the whole thing could go wrong and Thaksin could be in the worst case be imprisoned and all his money could be frozen?When what would happen with City?? Said & Done
David Hills Sunday March 2, 2008 The Observer
Thaksin: cuddly Thaksin Shinawatra - on bail in Thailand - says he'll restore his reputation. It's a tough rebrand: Thaksin's old image (via Human Rights Watch) includes 'leading a regime responsible for numerous extrajudicial executions, disappearances, torture and the deaths of hundreds of Malay Muslims'; 'the deaths of 2,275 in his war on drugs'; 'attacks on media freedom'; plus outstanding corruption charges, which Thaksin denies. another link: Human Rights Watch about Thaksin. http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/07/31/thaila16544.htm Some thoughts about Thaksin from Manchester City fans: As a City fan for 55 years (& the son & grandson of lifelong supporters) I regard the proposed takeover with dread. Do we really have to go down this road? A volatile man like Shinawatra could finally be the ruin of the club, and by God we've had a few who've tried! I personally would rather play in the Unibond than hand over my club to be destroyed by a man like this. I fear for the future. Posted by david royle on May 17, 2007 12:28 PM What if?
What if the man takes over and invests 'his' money in the Club. THEN, he is legally adjudged to owe large sums back in his native land. Presumably (and I query this) the Courts could impound 'his' money in the Club and send it to Thailand. What happens to Manchester City FC then? Posted by Roy Anderson on May 17, 2007 4:43 PM and for the cynics: What about the 'human rights' of those long suffering souls at Eastlands. Watching Man City this season surely a breaches Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights? Posted by thecomebackid on May 17, 2007 5:36 AM The reason there has been relatively little dissent over the proposed takeover when compared with the reaction of Liverpool fans is that we have been starved of success for more than 30 years. I give money to Amnesty every month, but I'm ashamed to say I'm so desperate for success that I'm prepared to believe Mr. Shinawatra's supporters' assessment of his record over that of his detractors. Posted by Phil Houghton on May 17, 2007 10:51
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| | | Posted 18/03/2008 17:17:40 | |
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| beer (18/03/2008) when you look at the Tottenham game and how Thaksin was cheered like a hero when he is a crook who exploited his country and only sees City as a business venture and an opportunity to boost his popularity.
It is sickening to see people mainly from the working class celebrating this shady fortune hunter in his Bentley, because they hope he might help City.
Anybody thought of the possibility that the whole thing could go wrong and Thaksin could be in the worst case be imprisoned and all his money could be frozen?When what would happen with City??
I know you want this to happen but it probably won't and until anything is proven then you are committing libel.
So as for selling integrity, you talk rubbish. Of course, you're a glory-hunting rag fan so what would you know of integrity.
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| | | Posted 18/03/2008 17:22:36 | |
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| | Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra being forced out in a coup d'etat would be an ironic twist in the career of a man who has preferred to write his own rule books rather than abide by prevailing conventions. From his transformation as a little-known police colonel into the nation's most popular ever leader via a farcical attempt to buy Liverpool football club in 2004 and a bizarre alleged plot on his life last month, Mr Thaksin has always led an arrogant larger-than-life existence where wheeling and dealing behind the scenes has been as important as what is presented to the public. His chameleon nature first emerged when he resigned from the police in 1987. He claimed to be burnt out but the reality was that he had used his police connections to establish a software marketing company, which - true to form - he named after himself, the Shinawatra Company. Three years later he helped fuel rumours that he was bankrupt but then he almost magically obtained a 20-year concession from the Thai telephone authorities for his cellular network and his future was assured. In 1994, having conquered the business world, the by now extremely wealthy tycoon, who had obtained a PhD in criminal justice from a little-known university in Texas while in the police, turned to politics. True to his track record he created his own party, Thai Rak Thai (Thais Love Thais) rather than jump into bed with any of the existing parties, which he saw as tainted by decades of failure to deliver sustainable development. Populist promises to deliver extremely cheap healthcare, village rejuvenation projects and a debt moratorium for farmers turned Mr Thaksin into an overnight hero. In the 1999 general election Thai Rak Thai not only swept into office, he won the first ever absolute majority in Thai political history. That would be enough of an accolade for most politicians. But not the man from Chaing Mai in northern Thailand. He always wanted more. He always wanted to grab bigger and more dramatic headlines. Or that is what it seemed like in May 2004 when it emerged he was in "serious" talks to buy a controlling stake of Liverpool football club. Mr Thaksin said his motivation was to associate Thailand with world-class brands rather than world class vices such as the sex industry and drugs trade. The fact that the Liverpool deal never happened is typical of Mr Thaksin's last two years; namely lots of grand promises but division and failure have been the more dominant threads as his arrogance appeared to overshadow his smooth ability to deliver. His popularity with the rural masses remains as strong as ever but Thailand's better-educated urbanites read much more into the failures and thus mobilised against him. What proved the last straw was the sale by Thaksin's relatives in January of their stake in the family conglomerate to Singapore without paying any tax. One set of rules for Mr Thaksin and one for the rest of the nation appears to have proved just too much. from the Guardian also libel???
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| | | Posted 18/03/2008 17:24:16 | |
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| No. They suggested they did not know how he did what he did. You actually said, outright, that he was a crook. You do see the difference don't you? You can't be that stupid surely.
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| | | Posted 18/03/2008 17:24:38 | |
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| emigre (18/03/2008)
beer (18/03/2008) when you look at the Tottenham game and how Thaksin was cheered like a hero when he is a crook who exploited his country and only sees City as a business venture and an opportunity to boost his popularity.
It is sickening to see people mainly from the working class celebrating this shady fortune hunter in his Bentley, because they hope he might help City.
Anybody thought of the possibility that the whole thing could go wrong and Thaksin could be in the worst case be imprisoned and all his money could be frozen?When what would happen with City??I know you want this to happen but it probably won't and until anything is proven then you are committing libel. So as for selling integrity, you talk rubbish. Of course, you're a glory-hunting rag fan so what would you know of integrity. interesting. so we can agree that you think that you have more integrity than a "rags" fan. But do the people who have cheered Thaksin really have more integrity than the "rags" fans.
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| | | Posted 18/03/2008 17:27:10 | |
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| beer (18/03/2008)
emigre (18/03/2008)
beer (18/03/2008) when you look at the Tottenham game and how Thaksin was cheered like a hero when he is a crook who exploited his country and only sees City as a business venture and an opportunity to boost his popularity.
It is sickening to see people mainly from the working class celebrating this shady fortune hunter in his Bentley, because they hope he might help City.
Anybody thought of the possibility that the whole thing could go wrong and Thaksin could be in the worst case be imprisoned and all his money could be frozen?When what would happen with City??
I know you want this to happen but it probably won't and until anything is proven then you are committing libel.
So as for selling integrity, you talk rubbish. Of course, you're a glory-hunting rag fan so what would you know of integrity.
interesting. so we can agree that he think that he would have more integrity than a "rags" fan. But do the people who have cheered Thaksin really more integrity than the "rags" fans.
That's not a sentence really, just a list of random words, but to try and help you out, Thaksin is innocent until proven guilty. A large percentage of rags support the club because of their success. Proven. End of.
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| | | Posted 18/03/2008 17:30:03 | |
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| Oh and that article you posted is years old. Add to that the general lack of quality in the Guardian's journalism and you have a whole bunch of nothing.
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| | | Posted 18/03/2008 17:32:17 | |
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| Interesting read Beer, now for the facts...- We're not in masses of debt.
- Our season ticket prices aren't rising 15% in an attempt to claw back this debt.
- We're not run by a stereotypical Texan tit.
 - your a twat who know's very little about football.
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| | | Posted 18/03/2008 17:32:35 | |
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| beer (18/03/2008)
emigre (18/03/2008) Oh and that article you posted is years old anyway.
and if?
It was speculative, had no fact just opinion, was carefully worded to say nothing libelous and as such, really has nothing to say. Just one mans opinion. The fact that a National Newspaper chose to publish it DOES NOT make it fact.
Don't believe everything you read in the papers, sonny.
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