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Posted 12/02/2008 11:43:06


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Worth noting that this is by the same guy who wrote this bollocks about us recently.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2008/01/18/sfnhen118.xml


What a sanctimonious prick. What do you reckon the chances are that he'll retract & apologise for the following statements?

"At Old Trafford, happily, there will be silence. Or at least there will be if the folk from the other side of the city decide to observe it. Manchester City have sent out letters to those fans who will attend the game, asking them to behave, but that's rather like asking the wind not to blow.
It is likely the silence will be broken. If so it would be nice to think that the offenders will be exposed and punished appropriately."

It was a rhetorical question, obviously!

Arse, City should find some legal grounds - libel maybe, although technically not true. Maybe defammation of character - and cause a stir.

In fact, any lawyers out there? We're City fans, lets lodge a defamation of character suit against this tosspot

I have no recollection of writing that


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Posted 12/02/2008 12:01:46


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Posted 12/02/2008 13:02:25


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Only silence can do justice for Busby Babes

By Michael Henderson
Last Updated: 2:23am GMT 18/01/2008

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There are certain harrowing events that one must remember, so as never to forget, and one of those bitter days arrives next month. On Feb 6 it will be 50 years to the night when the plane carrying Manchester United home from a European Cup tie in Belgrade failed to clear the runway at Munich, and 23 people perished.
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Other than the World Cup triumph of 1966, the Munich air crash remains the most important landmark in the history of post-war English football. It helped to establish the reputation of Manchester United, taking their name around the world in a way that tragic events often do, though the club's subsequent reconstruction under Sir Matt Busby also had something to do with it.
Only silence could do justice to memory of Busby Babes
Larger than life: a huge mural has gone up at Old Trafford of the Manchester United team lining up ahead of their European Cup game with Red Star Belgrade before the disaster at Munich airport on Feb 6, 1958

Less happily, the crash gives supporters of other clubs, notably Manchester City and Liverpool, a grubby stick with which to beat them. Thousands of City fans persist in loud-mouthed mockery every week with their shameful references to 'Munichs', their demeaning songs, and gestures intended to denote the wings of an aeroplane. Criminal offences there, one would have thought.

We are not so degraded, however, as to take our cue from the most disgusting members of the species. Or are we? England play Switzerland at Wembley on Feb 6, in Fabio Capello's first match as coach, and the Football Association have decided that, although the players will mark the 50th anniversary of the crash by wearing black arm-bands, there will be no minute's silence before the game.

It's a mistake. Manchester United may be one club among many, but they happen to be the biggest club in the country, and their loss had, and has, a national dimension. For it was country as well as club that lost Tommy Taylor, Roger Byrne, Eddie Colman and Duncan Edwards. Had those players lived it is possible that England would have won the World Cup in 1958 and 1962 as well as 1966, when Bobby Charlton, who survived the crash, had come of age.

Too many tears are shed in our weepy age. There are too many tributes paid to the departed, when the words spring from insincere hearts. But sincerity does exist, and there are a few occasions when tributes must be paid, not for form's sake, but out of a genuine need to remember.
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Remembrance, in its purest state, is conducted in silence, a truism that appears to be lost on the people who run football. The sound of a minute's applause in memory of a dead one has become depressingly familiar in our football grounds, excused airily by the absurd excuse that it is a 'continental custom'.

So what? They also spear bulls over there, beat donkeys, and put pepper on their strawberries. We have customs of our own, or used to, and the most appropriate way we remember the fallen is by observing a period of silence, which offers everybody an opportunity for reflection.

That is particularly significant in a sports stadium, where we hear noise all the time. Silence is never more impressive, nor more meaningful, than when it is observed by thousands of people, and that is why Wembley should be quiet on Feb 6.

If Brian Barwick-Mainwaring, the top dog at the Football Association, decreed it, it could be so. But football gave in a long time ago to the oiks and, having moved heaven and earth to land Capello, the FA are not going to have the coach's grand entrance ruined by fans shouting obscenities during a minute's silence to a club many of them loathe.

At Old Trafford, happily, there will be silence. Or at least there will be if the folk from the other side of the city decide to observe it. Manchester City have sent out letters to those fans who will attend the game, asking them to behave, but that's rather like asking the wind not to blow.

It is likely the silence will be broken. If so it would be nice to think that the offenders will be exposed and punished appropriately. But we should still opt for silence at such times, and United, who are not always beyond criticism, should be commended.


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Worth noting that this is by the same guy who wrote this bollocks about us recently.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2008/01/18/sfnhen118.xml
What a sanctimonious prick. What do you reckon the chances are that he'll retract & apologise for the following statements?"At Old Trafford, happily, there will be silence. Or at least there will be if the folk from the other side of the city decide to observe it. Manchester City have sent out letters to those fans who will attend the game, asking them to behave, but that's rather like asking the wind not to blow.It is likely the silence will be broken. If so it would be nice to think that the offenders will be exposed and punished appropriately."It was a rhetorical question, obviously!
Arse, City should find some legal grounds - libel maybe, although technically not true. Maybe defammation of character - and cause a stir.In fact, any lawyers out there? We're City fans, lets lodge a defamation of character suit against this tosspot
I have no recollection of writing that


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Ooh, he's a card that Michael Henderson.

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Posted 12/02/2008 18:44:59


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Worth noting that this is by the same guy who wrote this bollocks about us recently.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2008/01/18/sfnhen118.xml
What a sanctimonious prick. What do you reckon the chances are that he'll retract & apologise for the following statements?"At Old Trafford, happily, there will be silence. Or at least there will be if the folk from the other side of the city decide to observe it. Manchester City have sent out letters to those fans who will attend the game, asking them to behave, but that's rather like asking the wind not to blow.It is likely the silence will be broken. If so it would be nice to think that the offenders will be exposed and punished appropriately."It was a rhetorical question, obviously!
Arse, City should find some legal grounds - libel maybe, although technically not true. Maybe defammation of character - and cause a stir.In fact, any lawyers out there? We're City fans, lets lodge a defamation of character suit against this tosspot
I have no recollection of writing that


Have a couple of sweet sherries last night Mr Cooder?!


Oh, you're so cosmopolitan.


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Worth noting that this is by the same guy who wrote this bollocks about us recently.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2008/01/18/sfnhen118.xml
What a sanctimonious prick. What do you reckon the chances are that he'll retract & apologise for the following statements?"At Old Trafford, happily, there will be silence. Or at least there will be if the folk from the other side of the city decide to observe it. Manchester City have sent out letters to those fans who will attend the game, asking them to behave, but that's rather like asking the wind not to blow.It is likely the silence will be broken. If so it would be nice to think that the offenders will be exposed and punished appropriately."It was a rhetorical question, obviously!
Arse, City should find some legal grounds - libel maybe, although technically not true. Maybe defammation of character - and cause a stir.In fact, any lawyers out there? We're City fans, lets lodge a defamation of character suit against this tosspot
I have no recollection of writing that


Have a couple of sweet sherries last night Mr Cooder?!


Oh, you're so cosmopolitan.


I could go one of those.


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Worth noting that this is by the same guy who wrote this bollocks about us recently.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2008/01/18/sfnhen118.xml
What a sanctimonious prick. What do you reckon the chances are that he'll retract & apologise for the following statements?"At Old Trafford, happily, there will be silence. Or at least there will be if the folk from the other side of the city decide to observe it. Manchester City have sent out letters to those fans who will attend the game, asking them to behave, but that's rather like asking the wind not to blow.It is likely the silence will be broken. If so it would be nice to think that the offenders will be exposed and punished appropriately."It was a rhetorical question, obviously!
Arse, City should find some legal grounds - libel maybe, although technically not true. Maybe defammation of character - and cause a stir.In fact, any lawyers out there? We're City fans, lets lodge a defamation of character suit against this tosspot
I have no recollection of writing that


Have a couple of sweet sherries last night Mr Cooder?!


Oh, you're so cosmopolitan.


I could go one of those.

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