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Posted 08/02/2008 10:20:57


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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3119684,00.html

And they wonder why we all hate them! (picture)


"I Am Liam, I Am From Manchester... But I Have Brain Cells"

Liam Fray, 2008

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Posted 08/02/2008 10:23:19
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The Ghost Of Gibbi (08/02/2008)
Cooder (08/02/2008)
Lawrie Sanchez made a good point, other countrie's leagues aren't going to be happy about this, we'll no doubt be cutting into their pie

Another superb reasoning! Who in Spain will pay money to watch Fulham-Wigan, when they have the Madrid Derby and every game between Valencia, Barcelona, Real Madrid and (to an extent) Villareal.

FURTHERMORE (big words ) Italy also has the Turin and Milan Derbys, and Roma, Lazio and Juve. They may not be performing well, but games between these teams are always electric!

 

I think the idea is to take it beyond Europe, to asia etc. What I don't understand is that Scum, Chelsea, Arsenal etc are banging on about too many games, winter breaks etc (Sven included) but when an idea like this comes up, where there is a lot of money involved, suddenly they're all for it....... in fact, now I understand why. Money rules.

 

Shite idea

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Posted 08/02/2008 10:25:39


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Spiderpig (08/02/2008)
The Ghost Of Gibbi (08/02/2008)
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Lawrie Sanchez made a good point, other countrie's leagues aren't going to be happy about this, we'll no doubt be cutting into their pie

Another superb reasoning! Who in Spain will pay money to watch Fulham-Wigan, when they have the Madrid Derby and every game between Valencia, Barcelona, Real Madrid and (to an extent) Villareal.

FURTHERMORE (big words ) Italy also has the Turin and Milan Derbys, and Roma, Lazio and Juve. They may not be performing well, but games between these teams are always electric!

 

I think the idea is to take it beyond Europe, to asia etc. What I don't understand is that Scum, Chelsea, Arsenal etc are banging on about too many games, winter breaks etc (Sven included) but when an idea like this comes up, where there is a lot of money involved, suddenly they're all for it....... in fact, now I understand why. Money rules.

 

Shite idea

 

Exactly my thoughts.  That excuse is never allowed to be used again. Thus speaketh me.

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Posted 08/02/2008 10:27:13


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Spiderpig (08/02/2008)
The Ghost Of Gibbi (08/02/2008)
Cooder (08/02/2008)
Lawrie Sanchez made a good point, other countrie's leagues aren't going to be happy about this, we'll no doubt be cutting into their pie

Another superb reasoning! Who in Spain will pay money to watch Fulham-Wigan, when they have the Madrid Derby and every game between Valencia, Barcelona, Real Madrid and (to an extent) Villareal.

FURTHERMORE (big words ) Italy also has the Turin and Milan Derbys, and Roma, Lazio and Juve. They may not be performing well, but games between these teams are always electric!

 

I think the idea is to take it beyond Europe, to asia etc. What I don't understand is that Scum, Chelsea, Arsenal etc are banging on about too many games, winter breaks etc (Sven included) but when an idea like this comes up, where there is a lot of money involved, suddenly they're all for it....... in fact, now I understand why. Money rules.

 

Shite idea

Too true. It's a case of fuck the fans, lets give their money-lined pockets  a real shaftin, make them fly to the Antarctic to watch their team play a potential non-entity, but while we're at it, we'll rule out any chance of a derby, or the "big 4" playing each other, because the "big 4" may become dissapointed and lose points and then this'll mean they could miss out on the title.

I wouldn't be averse to playing the League Cup Final or the FA Cup Final abroad, that could work

Edit: Unless City got there, because I would have to go and I can only just get the money together for Wembley!


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Posted 08/02/2008 11:26:31


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The Ghost Of Gibbi (08/02/2008)
If you think of it this way, teams like Wigan will be recieving more revenue, which would mean they'd be in a stronger financial position, it's agreat idea. If you look at it as to effecting the league standings, which every fan is worried about, it's complete horse doo-doo

Not necessarily true.  Assuming they get a percentage of gate receipts, it is obvious that the 'big' clubs will attract more people and therefore get more money, as is already the case in this country.  Plus, you can guarantee that some clubs with wider appeal will arrange other promotional activities while they are there to tie in with the game, to make even more money.  Wigan might get more cash from this, but relative to other clubs they will be worse off.


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Posted 08/02/2008 11:29:42


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If you think of it this way, teams like Wigan will be recieving more revenue, which would mean they'd be in a stronger financial position, it's agreat idea. If you look at it as to effecting the league standings, which every fan is worried about, it's complete horse doo-doo

Not necessarily true.  Assuming they get a percentage of gate receipts, it is obvious that the 'big' clubs will attract more people and therefore get more money, as is already the case in this country.  Plus, you can guarantee that some clubs with wider appeal will arrange other promotional activities while they are there to tie in with the game, to make even more money.  Wigan might get more cash from this, but relative to other clubs they will be worse off.

 

Concur.  If everyone in the league gets £5M then it doesn't make them any more competitive.  Plus, if one club gets relegated due to a tougher extra game, or misses the champions league, or UEFA then the cost is much much greater than the mooted £5M.  I really can't see it happening, but if it does it will end in tears in the courtroom.


Edit: Spotted this.  LM=Gareth Southgate

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Posted 08/02/2008 11:43:59


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Benny (08/02/2008)

Concur.  If everyone in the league gets £5M then it doesn't make them any more competitive.  Plus, if one club gets relegated due to a tougher extra game, or misses the champions league, or UEFA then the cost is much much greater than the mooted £5M.  I really can't see it happening, but if it does it will end in tears in the courtroom.


Edit: Spotted this.  LM=Gareth Southgate

"Is it April 1? I find it highly unlikely it would happen. I wouldn't think it would be a realistic proposition."
Middlesbrough manager Gareth Southgate

He hangs on my every word.

which is why Boro are so shit


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Posted 08/02/2008 12:31:17


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Labmonkey (07/02/2008)
What bollocks.  Stating the obvious, but here goes:

1. Don't the 'big' teams already whinge about having too many games to play in a season?  Unless it just happens to be a money-spinning jaunt to foreign climes, obviously. 

2. The beauty of a league is that all teams play the other teams twice.  Having a draw for an extra league game creates an imbalance in the fixtures that is usually only seen in American leagues, and then only for logistical/travel purposes.  If the teams don't all play the same opponents the same number of times, how can it be considered a league?

3. What is the justification for the seeding?  What about the relegation strugglers who wouldn't want to play each other?  Or those teams just below the top five who might still be in with a chance of European qualification?

 

Wait, this is a wind up isn't it?

100% agree LM.

Also, is it not the fans game?  I can't see myself travelling half way across the world to see City play West Ham "away from home"

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Posted 08/02/2008 12:44:22


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david davies - ""Fans have got to be aware that the game has changed and the game is a global game, so there has to be a balance. "

basically... the english fans can fuck off, we can get people to fill the stands in their own countries, and you lot are not important to us as global brands.

this has to be the most side splittingly retarded idea since blatters "women should play in tighter kits" suggestion

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Posted 08/02/2008 13:35:28


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