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| Luton manager Mike Newell could be in trouble with the Football Association after launching a scathing attack on women officials. Newell was furious that assistant referee Amy Rayner failed to award his side a penalty in the 3-2 loss to QPR. He said: "She shouldn't be here. I know that sounds sexist but I am sexist. This is not park football, so what are women doing here?" The FA has confirmed it will be examining Newell's remarks. A spokesman said: "All we can say at the moment is that we will be investigating when we have discovered what was said." Newell was incensed that Rayner and referee Andy D'Urso failed to award his side a spot-kick when QPR defender Marcus Bignot tangled with Carlos Edwards in the penalty box. "It is tokenism - for the politically-correct idiots," said Newell. "We have a problem in this country with political correctness and bringing women into the game is not the way to improve refereeing and officialdom. "It is absolutely beyond belief. When do we reach a stage when all officials are women because then we are in trouble? "It is bad enough with the incapable referees and linesmen we have but if you start bringing in women, you have big problems." 606 DEBATE: What do you think of Newell's comments? But Bignot, who used to manage a women's football team in Birmingham, was astounded by Newell's remarks.  | Comments like those will stop female officials from trying to make their way in the game |
He said: "Comments like those will stop female officials from trying to make their way in the game. "Amy Rayner is a role model and full credit goes to her. What would he have said if it had been a male assistant referee making that decision? "It's easy to blame officials and Mike Newell is entitled to his opinion but remarks like that do not help the game."
Ok so he is right about the political correctness and the decisions were apparently terrible, but couldn't he just have laid into them? Instead of being sexist. The fact that she is a woman doesn't affect her ability to make decisions, she is obviously just shit!
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| | | Posted 12/11/2006 14:34:40 | |
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| | | Posted 12/11/2006 14:43:44 | |
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| | I wouldn't say he is correct about the political correctness at all. Presumably she is involved in officiating because she is fully qualified to do so, just as much as any man of similar refereeing experience. Not because someone somewhere has decided that we need to have some token females involved, but because no one who isn't an utter sexist tosser can give any reason why she shouldn't be picked to officiate if she has passed the courses and been rated highly enough in assessments at a lower level. I hope the twat gets the book thrown at him (and a couple of plates, saucers etc...  ) - he certainly would had it been racist remarks he had been making, and this is no different.
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| | | Posted 12/11/2006 18:07:59 | |
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| | I don't agree that she has been picked because she is a woman, i suppose the whole political correctness think just bugs me. You can't say a lot of things for fear of upsetting people. Of course you are right about the racist thing...if he said "i know that sounds racist, but i am racist..." he would be fucked, so he should be for this. It's not an attitude we need in football. or society
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| | | Posted 12/11/2006 20:29:11 | |
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| fatsquid (12/11/2006)
I don't agree that she has been picked because she is a woman, i suppose the whole political correctness think just bugs me. You can't say a lot of things for fear of upsetting people. Of course you are right about the racist thing...if he said "i know that sounds racist, but i am racist..." he would be fucked, so he should be for this. It's not an attitude we need in football. or society The PC thing annoys me too, but I do think it is very wrong to extrapolate one allegedly bad performance by a woman official (and I haven't seen it so I have no idea if it really was bad, given that the comments were the subjective views of the manager of a losing side) to saying that women should have no place in football full stop. Poor decisions are made by officials week in week out, regardless of gender, especially in the divisions below the Premiership. For all we know (1) the decisions may not have been as bad as Newell is suggesting (which decisions in particular was he referring to?), (2) if she did have a bad game, it may be a one off and not be representative of her performances in general and (3) if she is unfit to officiate, what is to say that is true of all women? Fair enough, if she is that bad then she shouldn't continue as a referee/lineswoman, but that has to be a judgement on the individual not a gender. I imagine Newell is (hopefully) feeling a little embarrassed today about his outburst. If it was heat of the moment and he was simply lashing out then fair enough, it's understandable enough - though still wrong and he should still be punished for it. If he genuinely believes that, however... (and I want to know what his missus had to say to him about it too )
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| | | Posted 12/11/2006 20:46:01 | |
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| | I agree 100% with you SB. I wouldn't suggest for one minute that all women make bad officials. I'm sure a lot of women are perfectly capable of officiating at a high standard. Just as there are many men who aren't capable. I havn't actually seen the incidents but i have heard that they were terrible, one of them was where she turned down a nailed on penalty apparently, and i'm not sure about the other. Her performance should be reviewed just as any other officials would be, and she should recieve the same treatment as any other official. I think it would be fantastic if we could have a top class woman referee, it would definately help get rid of a lot of stereotypes. If this woman is a good official then i hope she sticks at it, and isn't put off by the discrimanatory remarks of one nob head. Also, do you remember when Joe Royle said something about how women shouldn't be allowed to be officials at a top level. I think the woman in question was called Wendy...i think her second name was Tomms, Wendy Tomms. Can't remember if he got punished
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| | | Posted 12/11/2006 20:55:26 | |
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| Of course you agree, fatsquid. That's because there aren't any sexist idiots on this forum, and if there were, they might 'mysteriously' disappear...  She was called Wendy Toms. I really don't remember if Royle was punished for his comments - did he say women in general shouldn't be officials or specifically that Wendy Toms shouldn't? I suppose there is a subtle difference between the two, although if his opinions were based on the fact she is a woman, that makes it just about as bad. Whatever happened to her? Is she still refereeing?
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| | | Posted 12/11/2006 20:56:09 | |
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| | | Posted 12/11/2006 21:02:07 | |
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| Seattle Blue (12/11/2006)
Of course you agree, fatsquid. That's because there aren't any sexist idiots on this forum, and if there were, they might 'mysteriously' disappear...
If I reply to this will that cover my real sexist views? 
Only kidding.
Can she referree? If so then she gets the job. End of it...
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| | | Posted 12/11/2006 21:04:02 | |
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| save me Jeebus (12/11/2006)
Yeah Seattle Blue. You go girl.Just anyone dare try and disagree... 
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