Pearce

Born Unlucky (28/10/2006)

fatsquid (28/10/2006)

Born Unlucky (28/10/2006)

fatsquid (27/10/2006)

Born Unlucky (27/10/2006)

I've not seen us win owt either (the LC when I was 3 does not count!).

Let me make my position a little clearer. Taking Charlton as a very good example, there you have a club that won promotion, were relegated, and went straight back up (in similar style to ourselves and around about the same time as ourselves) and who have managed to establish themselves as a respected Premiership side, once or twice threatening to qualify for Europe. They have done this playing decent football, but without the profligacy of a KK. They are now in a position that I would have hoped to see City in at this moment in time (ok, I don't wish we were bottom, I mean financially). If City were financially secure AND had the foundations of a decent squad I would be delighted and very optimistic for the future. We SHOULD be in that position. We should be in a better position than Charlton right now but, league position apart, we are not. Had we had a manager of Curbishly's ilk, rather than a KK, we WOULD be in that position right now. As it is we are treading water and will be for some time and for why? For the glory of a First Division Championship, which was nice, but thats all it was. It's the only thing I've seen City win in my life, but it means little to me other than the fact we gained promotion. THAT was the real achievement. I don't want to see City winning First Division titles, I want to see them win something meaningful and I, unlike most of you, believe that will happen one day. Is it any wonder that so many of you think City have next to no chance of being successful ever again when you laud the likes of KK? If we need to all but bankrupt ourselves just to gain mid table Premiership mediocrity than of course we wont get anywhere. It doesn't have to be like that. It shouldn't have been like that. We missed a trick when we appointed KK. We are already 5 years behind where we could have been, and it'll take at least 5 more before we get there.

Crap. Sorry but i can't agree with much of what you have said. Of course you won't bother talking to me now because i don't agree with you (quite silly). Of course we should be aiming higher than that, but the fact is we were there and needed to get out of it...which we did in style. That will live long in my memory.

Good debating skills, I applaud you.

You let it live on in the memory. Only wish I was that easy pleased. However, do not claim to me that KK was the only man who could have achieved that. Many others have achieved the same, with smaller clubs and less money. You can't argue against that, unless you're completely blinkered.

Don't patronise me...my opinion is as valid as yours.

It's not that i'm easily pleased BU, it's that season was special. The way we played, watching Ali, Berkovic and the rest at their sensational best. That season was a major event in our history. Ok maybe we would have been promoted under another manager, but not with the same feel good factor.

Your opinion is valid, as is mine, which is why i object to it being dismissed as crap.

I'm not denying we won the First Division under KK in style. I'm just saying I would trade that for being in a better financial position than we are currently in. Whether or not we would have been under a different manager we'll never know, but there are plenty of examples to suggest it a possibilty.

Personally i don't think it was the division one season that fucked us fiinancilly, it was the resulting years. Still, i don't have many bad things to say about Keegan, he undeniably did some bad things for City, and equally undeniably did some very good things for us. Whether another manager would have stabalised us in the prem is irrelevant IMO, it was keegan that actually did it.