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Posted 18/10/2007 11:33:10
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Not really bothered about the result- just want all of our players who were away for internationals to come back unscathed! Care far more about our game on Saturday.

Pretty pathetic if we don't qualify and the damage was definitely done in the early stages.The tactics were changed too late and now we have to rely on others to help us out- very poor really and even if we did manage to get through I think it would be fair to say we'd been very lucky.

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Posted 18/10/2007 11:40:07


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At 1-0 up you expect England to be able to organise their team well enough not to concede two goals, given that a draw would have been an adequate result. But once again the old failings came out. Allowing the opposition to gain control, defending too deep, reckless tackling. It's all well and good to beat teams 3-0 at home, but away from home is where qualification is won or lost. Most will point to the home draw with Macedonia, but for me it was the pitifull performance in Croatia that most undermined our efforts. Now we have to hope Isreal can take points off Russia and we can beat Croatia. As much as I want England to be at the finals, I really don't want McClown to be there in charge of us.

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Posted 18/10/2007 11:45:31


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At 1-0 up you expect England to be able to organise their team well enough not to concede two goals, given that a draw would have been an adequate result. But once again the old failings came out. Allowing the opposition to gain control, defending too deep, reckless tackling. It's all well and good to beat teams 3-0 at home, but away from home is where qualification is won or lost. Most will point to the home draw with Macedonia, but for me it was the pitifull performance in Croatia that most undermined our efforts. Now we have to hope Isreal can take points off Russia and we can beat Croatia. As much as I want England to be at the finals, I really don't want McClown to be there in charge of us.

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Posted 18/10/2007 11:49:43


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Welcome back TID. Now I have to watch my typing again.

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Posted 18/10/2007 11:57:13


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emigre (18/10/2007)
Welcome back TID. Now I have to watch my typing again.



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Posted 18/10/2007 11:57:25


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May be a Jock but pretty spot on !!


By Alan Hansen
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Having watched the game, I have to say that I think it is amazing England lost. They played really well for most of the game and were very unfortunate.

They looked nervous for the first five minutes but after that it was all about organisation, discipline and big hearts.

There were some magnificent performances from the likes of Gareth Barry and Sol Campbell.

But you would have to say that the chance Steven Gerrard missed early in the second half was absolutely massive, while Micah Richards had a good opportunity to score as well.

Up until 69 minutes you could not see how Russia would get back into the game but it was a terrible decision for the penalty kick and then Paul Robinson spilled a shot.

The goalkeeper has had a hard time of late and there were questions as to whether or not he should have been playing.

The only thing I would say about the penalty decision is that I have no idea why Wayne Rooney was in the left-back position.

Good point well made !! Rooney plays to deep for my liking and doesnt support Owen enough and encourages the other team to come forward, but why was he tracking that bloke/Kid !!

Feliz Año Neuvo

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Posted 18/10/2007 12:16:31


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I'm gonna have a flippin good rant now. first off Rooney, WTF!!! is he doing trying to be a defender??? leave the defending to the defenders you Flippin Nonce!!! and was it just me or did the ball seem to spend more time in the air than on the Flippin Ground??? and where was our 11 players anyways??? Owen? yes he flicked it on to rooney to score but apart from that where the hell was he fer the rest of the game??? and where the hell was our Midfield?? shit i think im still a bit drunk, and  i can't remember much of the game but what a load of Shit!!! Oh and McClown how about getting Pearce in??? not doing bad with the U21's at all.
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Posted 18/10/2007 12:19:48


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At least the Germans had already qualified!



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Posted 18/10/2007 12:39:39


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I'm wounded. I've got post traumatic stress syndrome. Thats how badly I take that defeat. Wait till the tournament kicks off and we're not there, then you'll fell like I do. I'm psychic, thats why I feel it now.


Yes, all right.. Christ Almighty! It's like walking down a corridor and answering the door in Nazi Germany!

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Posted 18/10/2007 14:56:57


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save me Jeebus (18/10/2007)
I'm wounded. I've got post traumatic stress syndrome. Thats how badly I take that defeat. Wait till the tournament kicks off and we're not there, then you'll fell like I do. I'm psychic, thats why I feel it now.


I dont blame you mate. When, if ever was the last time England failed to qualify for Euros?


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