Clearly.

Unrequited love. Tis a bummer.

As for the rest of it, LM, to be honest i think you're reading far too much into it and only seeing the negative side. If one of our players was looking for ways to improve on an outstanding performance i'd be pretty bloody happy.

As for the wage demands thing, not many footballers are worth their money, but if he didn't try and get what money was potentially available to him, well that'd be stupid. I don't too much about your job, but i'm guessing you wouldn't class yourself as being worth £750k an hour (to pick an obscene number). But if you knew there was a strong possibilty it was available to you, surely you would go for it? To not would be madness. You wouldn't say "oh no, i'm not worth that, i'll just take £100k an hour i think i earn".

From Manchester with love

LM doesn't kiss her lab coat when an experiment works, nor does she profess to be in love with the establishment that pays her wages. This isn't just a dig at Fatboy, it's a dig at any footballer who treats supporters as mindless sheep. If the money is more important than playing for the club then don't suggest otherwise. How many millions a year does it take to get someone to commit to the football club they adore?

For that i stick by my point that i think anybody in any profession anywhere in the world would hold out for the best deal they can get for themselves.

For the rest of it, yes i think you have a point there. I don't see why there is such a witchhunt for Frank over it though.

From Manchester with love

I would, but then I don't much like my job. Nor am I overly fond of my employers. Then again, I'm not in the public eye and idolised by millions. Not much comparison between football and the real world, is there?

No, but it's a bit extreme really that. He should still hold out for the most money he can get. It might not be nice, and he might be overpayed for what talent he actually possesses (sp?), but i reckon i'd think less of him if he bottled out of getting what he can. Now of course if he is issuing ultimatums and saying "i'll leave if you don't give me x,y and z" then that's a bit different.

From Manchester with love

In my job someone might take the best financial deal of whatever options were offered (though it might help you to understand me better if you knew that I took a huge pay cut to come to my current job, as it was what I wanted to do rather than the money that motivates me).  However, I wouldn't start demanding the same as the top earners at my place of work and stall on committing my future - especially if, as BU said, at the same time I was professing my love for my current employers and claiming that it wasn't about the money.  'Holding out', as you put it, really equals little more than holding them to ransom on the basis that you think you are better than what you are being offered, and it is the mark of arrogance when that figure is basically 'oh, I don't think anyone at this company should earn more than I do'.

Keeper of the heretic's fork of doom.

I have no problem with footballers looking for the best deal available, as Squidge said.  There's shit loads of money pouring into the game.  If it doesn't go to the footballers it'll just go into the pockets of shareholders/chairmen.  I'd rather the players had it.

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Predicting false dawns since August '07.

I'd rather they all took a pay cut and reduced the price of a ticket. Scandalous the price of tickest these days. Thieving bastards!

There I said it.

Yes, all right.. Christ Almighty! It's like walking down a corridor and answering the door in Nazi Germany!