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Posted 01/11/2007 10:02:37


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Labmonkey (01/11/2007)
Lampard is a decent player who is lucky enough to play for Chelsea in a system that suits him 100% and allows him to get forward taking pot-shots without the burden of any more defensive responsibility than you would expect from a striker, thus hiding his significant limitations as a midfielder.  He was built up as some kind of footballing god by people dazzled by goals, which in itself is not his fault and he can't be blamed for that.  The problem that I have with him is that in the past few years, everything he has said or done suggests that he fully believes his own hype, and he has disappeared right up his own arse.  So even when his form is terrible, as it has been for England for some time, he still swans around like he is some kind of legend who 'deserves more respect' and is beyond criticism, and seems to take value in only the glory of goal-scoring as an indicator of his performance, when there should be more to a midfielder's game.  Even in a fantastic team performance, he is still pre-occupied with whether or not his name was on the score sheet.

That kind of attitude is exactly what makes me dislike him - a reasonable talent with a hugely overinflated ego and sense of self-importance.  In any walk of life, that kind of person gets right on my wick.

Why you're exactly right there LM.  Damn his eyes and may he burn in the fires of Hades.

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Posted 01/11/2007 10:19:02


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Labmonkey (01/11/2007)
Lampard is a decent player who is lucky enough to play for Chelsea in a system that suits him 100% and allows him to get forward taking pot-shots without the burden of any more defensive responsibility than you would expect from a striker, thus hiding his significant limitations as a midfielder.  He was built up as some kind of footballing god by people dazzled by goals, which in itself is not his fault and he can't be blamed for that.  The problem that I have with him is that in the past few years, everything he has said or done suggests that he fully believes his own hype, and he has disappeared right up his own arse.  So even when his form is terrible, as it has been for England for some time, he still swans around like he is some kind of legend who 'deserves more respect' and is beyond criticism, and seems to take value in only the glory of goal-scoring as an indicator of his performance, when there should be more to a midfielder's game.  Even in a fantastic team performance, he is still pre-occupied with whether or not his name was on the score sheet.

That kind of attitude is exactly what makes me dislike him - a reasonable talent with a hugely overinflated ego and sense of self-importance.  In any walk of life, that kind of person gets right on my wick.

I was chatting to a West Ham fan last night who said when he was there there were two groups in the crowd-people who hated Lampard, and people who pretended to like him to wind up the first group.

I do still always pick him in Fantasy Footy though-he's great at that.

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Posted 01/11/2007 12:04:16


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East Stand Massive (01/11/2007)
... Took his goals well last night, his goalhanging for his first two goals was top draw.

Lampard is as Lampard does.


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Posted 01/11/2007 12:11:34


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This Lampard debate is quite simple as far as I can see. I'm sure we are all agreed that there is only really room for one attacking central midfield player in any successful football team, so the question is would you prefer that player to be of Lampard ilk, or more in the Elano mould? A player like Elano for me, every time. I've said for a (very) long time now if I were a football manager I wouldn't buy a player such as Lampard, no matter how good he or anyone else thinks he is. He just ain't got what I'm looking for. Some of us err on the side of flamboyance. Frank and I are like chalk and cheese.


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Posted 01/11/2007 13:46:39


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Labmonkey (01/11/2007)
Lampard is a decent player who is lucky enough to play for Chelsea in a system that suits him 100% and allows him to get forward taking pot-shots without the burden of any more defensive responsibility than you would expect from a striker, thus hiding his significant limitations as a midfielder.  He was built up as some kind of footballing god by people dazzled by goals, which in itself is not his fault and he can't be blamed for that.  The problem that I have with him is that in the past few years, everything he has said or done suggests that he fully believes his own hype, and he has disappeared right up his own arse.  So even when his form is terrible, as it has been for England for some time, he still swans around like he is some kind of legend who 'deserves more respect' and is beyond criticism, and seems to take value in only the glory of goal-scoring as an indicator of his performance, when there should be more to a midfielder's game.  Even in a fantastic team performance, he is still pre-occupied with whether or not his name was on the score sheet.

That kind of attitude is exactly what makes me dislike him - a reasonable talent with a hugely overinflated ego and sense of self-importance.  In any walk of life, that kind of person gets right on my wick.

So, if I'm summarising correctly, you're basically saying he's a fantastic goalscoring midfielder.  The best in the country in fact.

In that case, I concur.

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Posted 01/11/2007 14:35:26


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Labmonkey (01/11/2007)
Lampard is a decent player who is lucky enough to play for Chelsea in a system that suits him 100% and allows him to get forward taking pot-shots without the burden of any more defensive responsibility than you would expect from a striker, thus hiding his significant limitations as a midfielder.  He was built up as some kind of footballing god by people dazzled by goals, which in itself is not his fault and he can't be blamed for that.  The problem that I have with him is that in the past few years, everything he has said or done suggests that he fully believes his own hype, and he has disappeared right up his own arse.  So even when his form is terrible, as it has been for England for some time, he still swans around like he is some kind of legend who 'deserves more respect' and is beyond criticism, and seems to take value in only the glory of goal-scoring as an indicator of his performance, when there should be more to a midfielder's game.  Even in a fantastic team performance, he is still pre-occupied with whether or not his name was on the score sheet.

That kind of attitude is exactly what makes me dislike him - a reasonable talent with a hugely overinflated ego and sense of self-importance.  In any walk of life, that kind of person gets right on my wick.

So, if I'm summarising correctly, you're basically saying he's a fantastic goalscoring midfielder.  The best in the country in fact.

In that case, I concur.

No.  You summarised incorrectly.  What we're saying, is that Lampard is only out for himself.  That and the fact that he's a big fat cockney twat who should not be an automatic choice in the England team.

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Posted 01/11/2007 14:43:15


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Labmonkey (01/11/2007)
Lampard is a decent player who is lucky enough to play for Chelsea in a system that suits him 100% and allows him to get forward taking pot-shots without the burden of any more defensive responsibility than you would expect from a striker, thus hiding his significant limitations as a midfielder.  He was built up as some kind of footballing god by people dazzled by goals, which in itself is not his fault and he can't be blamed for that.  The problem that I have with him is that in the past few years, everything he has said or done suggests that he fully believes his own hype, and he has disappeared right up his own arse.  So even when his form is terrible, as it has been for England for some time, he still swans around like he is some kind of legend who 'deserves more respect' and is beyond criticism, and seems to take value in only the glory of goal-scoring as an indicator of his performance, when there should be more to a midfielder's game.  Even in a fantastic team performance, he is still pre-occupied with whether or not his name was on the score sheet.

That kind of attitude is exactly what makes me dislike him - a reasonable talent with a hugely overinflated ego and sense of self-importance.  In any walk of life, that kind of person gets right on my wick.

So, if I'm summarising correctly, you're basically saying he's a fantastic goalscoring midfielder.  The best in the country in fact.

In that case, I concur.

No.  You summarised incorrectly.  What we're saying, is that Lampard is only out for himself.  That and the fact that he's a big fat cockney twat who should not be an automatic choice in the England team.

I tell thee what TID, BU and LM. If all our players scored as regularly as fat boy because they were 'in it for themselves', I'd be as happy as Larry.


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Posted 01/11/2007 14:46:59


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I tell thee what ESM.  If chunky can't adapt his style for England and continues to be a huge fucking waste of space wearing the three lions then he can fuck off.  I've never seen him get Man of the Match for England.  FACT.

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Posted 01/11/2007 14:50:12


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TiD (01/11/2007)
I tell thee what ESM.  If chunky can't adapt his style for England and continues to be a huge fucking waste of space wearing the three lions then he can fuck off.  I've never seen him get Man of the Match for England.  FACT.

Didn't he get England fans' Player of the year two years' running?  FACT?

Edit for spacky spelling.

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Posted 01/11/2007 14:50:38


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