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Posted 07/09/2007 19:32:31


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Still disagree.  Everyone should just go and do it.  Everyone talk about it all over the internet right now.  What would they do then?  Everyone gets to sue everyone else, right.  Absolute fookin crap.  People are too soft.  It's only words, sticks and stones and all that..

 

 

But rightly or wrongly, words can get you into a lot of bother - being sued or being sacked if you post something on work time, etc.  If that makes the person being defamed 'soft' is a matter of opinion, but it wouldn't help you in a court of law.  The fact is, people do get sued, and the claimant does win.

Also, we're not actually talking are we?  We're writing, which is a different ball game.

So what, it's only words.  State of the world, i'm afraid.  Can't say boo to a goose these days.  But, if everyone just did say what they wanted, we'd live in more honest open society, and that is the way forward, insteadof all this secret, hush hush bollox that exists now.

You pretty much can say what you want-go to Speaker's Corner for an afternoon and have a listen, or visit the houses of parliament and see the protests that are pretty much permanently there.  What you can't do is defame or libel someone.  And rightly so.

Number 1, You can do it wherever you like.

Number 2, I'm not.

Never said you were. What I said (repeatedly), was that someone else might, and it could end up with repercussions.

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Posted 07/09/2007 19:32:52


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Still disagree.  Everyone should just go and do it.  Everyone talk about it all over the internet right now.  What would they do then?  Everyone gets to sue everyone else, right.  Absolute fookin crap.  People are too soft.  It's only words, sticks and stones and all that..

 

 

But rightly or wrongly, words can get you into a lot of bother - being sued or being sacked if you post something on work time, etc.  If that makes the person being defamed 'soft' is a matter of opinion, but it wouldn't help you in a court of law.  The fact is, people do get sued, and the claimant does win.

That, is because of the pathetic, arsehole, mindless, soft arse society we now live in.  People are pathetic, to be honest with you.  It's all, i'll sue you, you sue me - tripe.  Whatever happened to just dishin' it out, and gettin it back, like it should be.  What a moronic, pathetic, wankshaft society we live in.  I'm ashamed to be part of it.

You're perfectly entitled to that opinion, but while that is the way it is, the wise thing to do is to take care with what you publish on a public internet forum.  You can be a martyr to the cause of freedom of speech by posting whatever you like on other sites, but as there is an ongoing argument over whether it is the poster or the admin/mods who are responsible for the posted content, I'd really rather not get involved, ta.

Tell 'em to see me, if any shit hits the fan, and i'll put em straight.  Likely as not probably tell em to stop being so pathetic, and to fuck right off.

By the way, i am responsible for what i say, nobody else id getting the credit for what i say.

"When a second human being responds to the activities of a first, then what the second does cannot be accounted as wholly their own activity - for the second acts in a way that is party shaped by the first" - Professor John Shotter.

Perhaps you're not!

That might not have any relevance, but it is a theory i like.

Also, "likely as not tell 'em to fuck right off and stop being so pathetic"? Very naive

Trust me, I would. 

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Posted 07/09/2007 19:33:17


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Still disagree.  Everyone should just go and do it.  Everyone talk about it all over the internet right now.  What would they do then?  Everyone gets to sue everyone else, right.  Absolute fookin crap.  People are too soft.  It's only words, sticks and stones and all that..

 

 

But rightly or wrongly, words can get you into a lot of bother - being sued or being sacked if you post something on work time, etc.  If that makes the person being defamed 'soft' is a matter of opinion, but it wouldn't help you in a court of law.  The fact is, people do get sued, and the claimant does win.

That, is because of the pathetic, arsehole, mindless, soft arse society we now live in.  People are pathetic, to be honest with you.  It's all, i'll sue you, you sue me - tripe.  Whatever happened to just dishin' it out, and gettin it back, like it should be.  What a moronic, pathetic, wankshaft society we live in.  I'm ashamed to be part of it.

You're perfectly entitled to that opinion, but while that is the way it is, the wise thing to do is to take care with what you publish on a public internet forum.  You can be a martyr to the cause of freedom of speech by posting whatever you like on other sites, but as there is an ongoing argument over whether it is the poster or the admin/mods who are responsible for the posted content, I'd really rather not get involved, ta.

Tell 'em to see me, if any shit hits the fan, and i'll put em straight.  Likely as not probably tell em to stop being so pathetic, and to fuck right off.

By the way, i am responsible for what i say, nobody else id getting the credit for what i say.

"When a second human being responds to the activities of a first, then what the second does cannot be accounted as wholly their own activity - for the second acts in a way that is party shaped by the first" - Professor John Shotter.

Perhaps you're not!

That might not have any relevance, but it is a theory i like.

Also, "likely as not tell 'em to fuck right off and stop being so pathetic"? Very naive

Trust me, I would. 

Didn't say you wouldn't


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Posted 07/09/2007 19:33:34


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What is there to be a martyr about.  It is every persons right to say exactly what they want, and to not give a fuck what anyone says.  More people should use this given right.  Given right by birth.

mar·tyr       (mär'tər)  Pronunciation Key 
n.  

  1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
  2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
    1. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
    2. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.

so to summarise:

Potentially getting sued or sacked because you believe in the principle of freedom of speech (even if libellous).  It'd get publicity for the cause, especially if you did it deliberately to make a statement about today's 'soft' society, but the way the laws stand, you would have to make a sacrifice to get publicity for your cause if you go about it the way you are talking about on here. 


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Posted 07/09/2007 19:35:23


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What is there to be a martyr about.  It is every persons right to say exactly what they want, and to not give a fuck what anyone says.  More people should use this given right.  Given right by birth.

mar·tyr       (mär'tər)  Pronunciation Key 
n.  

  1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
  2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
    1. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
    2. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.

so to summarise:

Potentially getting sued or sacked because you believe in the principle of freedom of speech (even if libellous).  It'd get publicity for the cause, especially if you did it deliberately to make a statement about today's 'soft' society, but the way the laws stand, you would have to make a sacrifice to get publicity for your cause if you go about it the way you are talking about on here. 

Laws are only man made.  Doesn't mean they are right, just their opinion.

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Posted 07/09/2007 19:36:37


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Still disagree.  Everyone should just go and do it.  Everyone talk about it all over the internet right now.  What would they do then?  Everyone gets to sue everyone else, right.  Absolute fookin crap.  People are too soft.  It's only words, sticks and stones and all that..

 

 

But rightly or wrongly, words can get you into a lot of bother - being sued or being sacked if you post something on work time, etc.  If that makes the person being defamed 'soft' is a matter of opinion, but it wouldn't help you in a court of law.  The fact is, people do get sued, and the claimant does win.

Also, we're not actually talking are we?  We're writing, which is a different ball game.

So what, it's only words.  State of the world, i'm afraid.  Can't say boo to a goose these days.  But, if everyone just did say what they wanted, we'd live in more honest open society, and that is the way forward, insteadof all this secret, hush hush bollox that exists now.

You pretty much can say what you want-go to Speaker's Corner for an afternoon and have a listen, or visit the houses of parliament and see the protests that are pretty much permanently there.  What you can't do is defame or libel someone.  And rightly so.

Number 1, You can do it wherever you like.

Number 2, I'm not.

Never said you were. What I said (repeatedly), was that someone else might, and it could end up with repercussions.

*bangs head against wall*

Again, soft arse wishy washy turd society.

Post #102364
Posted 07/09/2007 19:37:07


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Still disagree.  Everyone should just go and do it.  Everyone talk about it all over the internet right now.  What would they do then?  Everyone gets to sue everyone else, right.  Absolute fookin crap.  People are too soft.  It's only words, sticks and stones and all that..

 

 

But rightly or wrongly, words can get you into a lot of bother - being sued or being sacked if you post something on work time, etc.  If that makes the person being defamed 'soft' is a matter of opinion, but it wouldn't help you in a court of law.  The fact is, people do get sued, and the claimant does win.

That, is because of the pathetic, arsehole, mindless, soft arse society we now live in.  People are pathetic, to be honest with you.  It's all, i'll sue you, you sue me - tripe.  Whatever happened to just dishin' it out, and gettin it back, like it should be.  What a moronic, pathetic, wankshaft society we live in.  I'm ashamed to be part of it.

You're perfectly entitled to that opinion, but while that is the way it is, the wise thing to do is to take care with what you publish on a public internet forum.  You can be a martyr to the cause of freedom of speech by posting whatever you like on other sites, but as there is an ongoing argument over whether it is the poster or the admin/mods who are responsible for the posted content, I'd really rather not get involved, ta.

What is there to be a martyr about.  It is every persons right to say exactly what they want, and to not give a fuck what anyone says.  More people should use this given right.  Given right by birth.

You would therefore be supportive of The Sun printing your name, address and picture and saying you were a paedophile?

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Posted 07/09/2007 19:37:23


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ENOUGH ALREADY!


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Post #102366
Posted 07/09/2007 19:39:33


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What is there to be a martyr about.  It is every persons right to say exactly what they want, and to not give a fuck what anyone says.  More people should use this given right.  Given right by birth.

mar·tyr       (mär'tər)  Pronunciation Key 
n.  

  1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
  2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
    1. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
    2. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.

so to summarise:

Potentially getting sued or sacked because you believe in the principle of freedom of speech (even if libellous).  It'd get publicity for the cause, especially if you did it deliberately to make a statement about today's 'soft' society, but the way the laws stand, you would have to make a sacrifice to get publicity for your cause if you go about it the way you are talking about on here. 

Laws are only man made.  Doesn't mean they are right, just their opinion.

Who said otherwise?  Not all laws are 'right', no.  But they exist and either you live by them, or you try to change them.  Deliberately flouting them to draw publicity to their wrongness is one way of going about things, but will make you a martyr to the cause because you will be punished for doing so.  As we might also be considered liable and accessories to the law-breaking, we're not going to make this a forum on which you can do that, but feel free to do so elsewhere.


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