|
| |  Posted 05/04/2007 13:14:02 | |
| Second Division Poster
 
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 23/04/2008 03:07:54
Posts: 295, Visits: 678 |
| | So what do they do about that then? UEFA have made it clear that they prefer club stewards to police matches, rather than local police. I guess this is the reason. I bet the Utd fans get the blame for it as well, when the Roma fans were allowed to taunt them and attack them indiscriminately, without fearing the police, but the second the Utd fans reacted, they waded in there with the batons. Should a club so incapable of policing fans be allowed in European competitions? |
| |
| | | Posted 05/04/2007 13:58:04 | |
| 
Premiership Poster
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 18/06/2008 15:15:33
Posts: 3,250, Visits: 2,726 |
| The Rags have got into trouble in France and now Italy. They have a habit of blaming the local police every time rather than accepting the blame. At the Roma game the Rags smashed the seats and threw them at the Roma fans and the police. What did they expect as a reaction?
Ban the fuckers from Europe before they kill someone.
__________________________________________________________
|
| |
| | | Posted 05/04/2007 14:19:11 | |
| 
Premiership Poster
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 01/05/2008 02:08:10
Posts: 8,788, Visits: 3,484 |
| | that's what i think too. most arrests at games in england is usually united, this doesn't get reported enough. relegate them and throw them out of europe.
The PB for Mod pledges: Cloudyshin O'Watra, ESM, MSTB, Squidge, Buff, Noddy the Bolton Blue, Spiderpig, Emigre, The Ghost of Gibbi, Bill, Danny's Stud's, Shimmer. |
| |
| | | Posted 05/04/2007 15:10:21 | |
| 
Premiership Poster
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 23/12/2008 00:48:42
Posts: 3,785, Visits: 6,573 |
| Off (05/04/2007)
relegate them and throw them out of europe.
The best suggestion of the week winner by a mile.
_______________________________________________________________________
Fun-spoiling tart |
| |
| | | Posted 06/04/2007 19:42:31 | |
| 
Hello Ladies
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 01/05/2008 16:41:52
Posts: 2,640, Visits: 2,036 |
| I'm With Stupid (05/04/2007)
So what do they do about that then? UEFA have made it clear that they prefer club stewards to police matches, rather than local police. I guess this is the reason. I bet the Utd fans get the blame for it as well, when the Roma fans were allowed to taunt them and attack themindiscriminately, without fearing the police, but the second the Utd fans reacted, they waded in there with the batons. Should a club so incapable of policing fans be allowed in European competitions?
UEFA can do fuck all about stewarding in Italy. They don't have the powers to overrule Italian law. From the Beeb:
Uefa spokesman William Gaillard said Uefa has little control over the police.
"Italian law says police are responsible for public order inside stadiums. Stadia in Italy are municipal stadiums, they are not the property of the club," he told BBC Radio Five Live.
"We are definitely in favour of soft policing, which is clearly the use of stewards who we know can handle a difficult situation probably better than riot police.
"We are subject to the law so we cannot tell the Italians and other countries where police are in charge of public order in stadia not to enter stadia.
"We are just a football authority not a law and order authority."
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Stop being dandy, showing me you're handsome! |
| |
| | | Posted 06/04/2007 23:47:37 | |
| 
Premiership Poster
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 02/07/2008 14:27:23
Posts: 5,331, Visits: 4,767 |
| Frank Blue (06/04/2007)
I'm With Stupid (05/04/2007)
So what do they do about that then? UEFA have made it clear that they prefer club stewards to police matches, rather than local police. I guess this is the reason. I bet the Utd fans get the blame for it as well, when the Roma fans were allowed to taunt them and attack themindiscriminately, without fearing the police, but the second the Utd fans reacted, they waded in there with the batons. Should a club so incapable of policing fans be allowed in European competitions?UEFA can do fuck all about stewarding in Italy. They don't have the powers to overrule Italian law. From the Beeb: Uefa spokesman William Gaillard said Uefa has little control over the police. "Italian law says police are responsible for public order inside stadiums. Stadia in Italy are municipal stadiums, they are not the property of the club," he told BBC Radio Five Live. "We are definitely in favour of soft policing, which is clearly the use of stewards who we know can handle a difficult situation probably better than riot police. "We are subject to the law so we cannot tell the Italians and other countries where police are in charge of public order in stadia not to enter stadia. "We are just a football authority not a law and order authority." There are ways of putting pressure on though. Like, unless you operate to our rules and standards, you can't take part in our tournament.
Or maybe once in a while criticise to police's actions and say 'if this happens again, we'll have to think about games being played... not behind closed doors, but just without the home fans in Italy'.
I know these things would never happen in a million years, but only through a lack of will.
Yes, all right.. Christ Almighty! It's like walking down a corridor and answering the door in Nazi Germany! |
| |
| | | Posted 11/04/2007 17:41:44 | |
| 
Premiership Poster
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 02/05/2008 13:46:18
Posts: 4,517, Visits: 2,022 |
| Uefa criticises European policing |
|
A lot of the crowd control practice in England has been established over 20-25 years... it is vital to learn from that
William Gaillard |
Uefa director of communications William Gaillard has urged European police to follow Britain's lead in the wake of crowd trouble involving English clubs. Manchester United and Tottenham fans were involved in ugly scenes on their trips to Rome and Seville last week. In both instances, the local police were accused of heavy-handed behaviour. And Gaillard told BBC Radio: "Our president Michel Platini has repeatedly asked police to learn from the British experience and way of handling things." Interview: Uefa's William Gaillard He added: "A lot of the crowd control practice in England has been established over 20-25 years, given that there was a very serious problem before that. "Now, through a number of measures that are not all linked to policing, though many are, we have got a situation that is far more acceptable than in other countries and it is vital to learn from that." Gaillard also accused the Rome police of fundamental failures in their preparation for United's visit last week, after which 11 English supporters were taken to hospital.
| What is important is to reinforce the co-operation between - and within - the forces
William Gaillard |
"There is no doubt that when supporters are accompanied by a few police officers who understand their culture and what it takes to keep them under control, it helps tremendously. "Something just as stupid as the fact that there was probably no-one in the Roman force last week who could speak English proved costly," he said. Trouble occurred before United's win over Roma last night at Old Trafford as well but, although there were 21 arrests, the problems were soon brought under control by officers with batons and police horses and dogs. Like in Rome, several Spurs fans received injury in Seville last Thursday, with club coach Clive Allen describing the actions of the police there as "disgusting". And Gaillard has called for greater co-operation between countries' police forces. "What is important is to reinforce the co-operation between - and within - the forces. This is not just vital in the repression of hooliganism and violence, but also in corruption, illegal betting, money laundering through sport, doping and so on. "The more co-ordination and co-operation we get, the better the results we will see." | | |
This makes a nice change to read something possitive !!
Feliz Año Neuvo |
| |
| | | Posted 19/04/2007 12:12:00 | |
| 
Premiership Poster
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 02/05/2008 09:58:40
Posts: 1,529, Visits: 1,429 |
| I'm With Stupid (05/04/2007)
So what do they do about that then? UEFA have made it clear that they prefer club stewards to police matches, rather than local police. I guess this is the reason. I bet the Utd fans get the blame for it as well, when the Roma fans were allowed to taunt them and attack them indiscriminately, without fearing the police, but the second the Utd fans reacted, they waded in there with the batons. Should a club so incapable of policing fans be allowed in European competitions?Roma should be kicked out of Europe for rolling over so lamely against the Rags. They're a disgrace.
Sometimes I wish that I could stop you from talking when I hear the silly things that you say |
| |
| | | Posted 19/04/2007 12:19:13 | |
|
Hello Ladies
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 01/05/2008 16:41:52
Posts: 2,640, Visits: 2,036 |
| Born Unlucky (19/04/2007)
I'm With Stupid (05/04/2007)
So what do they do about that then? UEFA have made it clear that they prefer club stewards to police matches, rather than local police. I guess this is the reason. I bet the Utd fans get the blame for it as well, when the Roma fans were allowed to taunt them and attack them indiscriminately, without fearing the police, but the second the Utd fans reacted, they waded in there with the batons. Should a club so incapable of policing fans be allowed in European competitions?Roma should be kicked out of Europe for rolling over so lamely against the Rags. They're a disgrace. If you looked at that game statistically, they had about a similar number of shots and I think more possession. For the opening minutes of the game, they looked the better side until the first goal went in. IMO.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Stop being dandy, showing me you're handsome! |
| |
| | |
|