Morning Glory is over-produced schlock.  It was Noel Gallagher thinking he was fuckin John Lennon.  Definitely Maybe is by far the superior album, because it was THE Oasis, raw and how they really were.

I have a totally irrational dislike of "mainstream" bands and my definition of mainstream is "if someone else mentions them then they're mainstream." This is incredibly juvenile and I promise I do try to fight it but I have to confess; largely without success.

I can think of countless examples of 1st albums that I've bought and then stopped playing or given away just because the band has become "too" successful.

I just hope this never happens with 5 Leaves Left.

I sort of know what you mean, and certainly used to be very blinkered when younger. Although there's certain types of music and certain bands I'll always detest, nowadays if I like the music, I'll buy it, whether it's popular or not.

I think it's a general prejudice that I just can't shake off.

Here's another example of it. A few posters on here have stuck Steely Dan up on the last album listened to. I also know that Steely Dan are much revered by people who's music taste I would normally respect and I am aware that my gut reaction of dislike goes way back to the birth of punk in the UK when bands like them were swept aside on a wave of fuzz guitar and sneering lyrics.

So, encouraged by my fellow posters I go off and buy "Citizen Dan" a box set of their entire 70's output and a very nice presentation it is too.

I'm giving it a really good go and I do admire the songs and the musicianship but still something deep down in my gut still says "Cloudy, you don't like this hippy shit."

I used to be like that, but then you think whats the point.  If you like something that is popular then so be it.  I love Blondie, which was incredibly popular.  Having said that, it's the early stuff i like.  After about 1980ish i think they lost their way.

The Oasis thing to me is, i loved their early sound.  To me Morning Glory isn't them, and it does nowt for me.

5LL do what we do, if people like it then they like it, if they don't then they don't.

And you love the cardigans, who everybody else detests!

From Manchester with love

Which is what i  can't understand about people.  How can you detest a band so fuckin good?????   You have there, a collection of supremely talented musicians who write songs to die for, yet people aren't interested.  Why?  Fuckin human beings haven't got a fookin clue.  They'd far rather listen to all that fuckin rap crap, or Westlake or some shit.

From Manchester with love